Women, Islam, Gays, and Ostriches
So here we are with another one of my little rants masquerading as a post!
Item Number 1. While driving home from Lubbock, Texas last Thursday, I happened to catch Michael Savage's show on the am dial. Savage, who I find entertaining if a bit over the top at times, had a story about the top Imam in Australia, who said that women, essentially, deserved to be raped if they are not covered. That's right, folks, he compared them to a piece of meat left out uncovered. Well, if there is a piece of meat left in the open, of course the cats (Muslims) will eat (rape) that piece of meat (women). He said this, unequivocally. - and damned little was reported about it in this country. He was responding to prison terms given to young muslim men who committed a series of rapes in Sydney. The Imam further stated that "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."
On to Item Number Two. Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque in Manchester, England believes the killing of gays is justified - hey, it's in the Koran after all! Quite a few people have come out and stated that his position is extreme, that the Koran does NOT state that the killing of gays is warranted, it's just an "interpretation." An interpretation of what? From religioustolerance.org:
The Hadith are collections of sayings attributed to Muhammad.
IslamOnline.net records a fatwa (religious ruling) concerning an Iranian man who had been convicted of raping and then killing his 16-year-old nephew. The fatwa does not appear to differentiate between consensual homosexuality and homosexual rape; both are linked to adultery. Their ruling stated:
"Homosexuality, moreover, is an abomination and a grave sin. In Hadith, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, clarifies the gravity of this abomination by saying: "Allah curses the one who does the actions (homosexual practices) of the people of Lut." repeating it three times; and he said in another Hadith: "If a man comes upon a man then they are both adulterers." Here, he considered homosexuality tantamount to adultery in relation to the Shari’ah punishments because it is an abomination on the one hand and the definition of adultery applies to it on the other hand.....As for lesbians, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said about them: 'If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both Adulteresses'."
Other Hadiths also discuss liwat (gay sexual activity) and Sihaq (lesbian sexual activity).
"When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes."
"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to."
"Sihaq (lesbian sexual activity) of women is zina (illegitimate sexual intercourse) among them."
Traditionalist orthodox Muslims generally claim that the Hadith literature contains the authentic sayings of Muhammad. Many liberal Muslims doubt the authenticity of at least some of them. The latter suggest that during the times of the first Caliphs, Muslims did not know what to do with individuals guilty of "liwat/lutiyya". No sahabi (companion) of Muhammad could quote a saying or decision of Muhammad relating to this question.
There seems to be no tolerance for gays in Islam, even though buggery of kids is common, not only with boys, but girls as well. This from Ayatollah Khomeni:
"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."
These pronouncements are from Islamic leaders! Islam is simply not compatible with Western, European, Judeo-Christian values. The Reformation, the Enlightenment, Constitutional Law, all of these Islamists desire to end, replacing it with Sharia law, in which women can be killed for being suspected of committing adultery, and gays have no rights. I am tempted to link to a video of the stoning of a woman convicted of adultery in Iran, but, really, it is quite horrendous, so no link. Women's and Gay Rights groups in the US continue their attacks on Conservative Christians, completely ignoring the giant, purple-spotted, pink elephant with the scimitar waiting to get into the room. Christians are an easy target, they typically do not riot in the streets, burn cars (Paris), call for the deaths of the infidels (Danish cartoons) and lop heads off when they are offended - they take out ads and write letters to the editor!
Oh yeah, and it is estimated that several hundred gay Palestinians have crossed and are living illegally in Israel, where they feel safer. Yep, the same Israel which Kofi and others would have us believe is an apartheid, racist, fascist state. Truly unbelievable. My only real hope is that people will go on-line, ignore CNN, MSNBC, BBC, ABC, CBS and others, and look for other sources of news and information that are factual and straightforward - not shilling for a particular political party. There is an abundance of information out there that we, here in the US, do not get to see unless we look, and I truly hope that we are not ostriches, hiding our heads from that which we either find disgusting or simply do not want to confront.
So, there is my happy, beginning of the week post. Get off your ass, look at Jihadwatch, LGF, MEMRI, and others, and see what's really going on.
Oh, yeah, and have a great day!!!!!!!
Another 'Oh, yeah," I know there are moderate Muslims who do not really subscribe to the Jihad rhetoric of kill the infidel, stone, behead, blah, blah, blah... but they really do need to speak up NOW- it's been over five years since 9/11 and the US and western Europe are realizing just what Islam is about and the moderates are conspiciously silent. Germany is learning, Holland is learning, France is learning, Sweden is learning, Denmark is ...............................
And the United States is learning.
Item Number 1. While driving home from Lubbock, Texas last Thursday, I happened to catch Michael Savage's show on the am dial. Savage, who I find entertaining if a bit over the top at times, had a story about the top Imam in Australia, who said that women, essentially, deserved to be raped if they are not covered. That's right, folks, he compared them to a piece of meat left out uncovered. Well, if there is a piece of meat left in the open, of course the cats (Muslims) will eat (rape) that piece of meat (women). He said this, unequivocally. - and damned little was reported about it in this country. He was responding to prison terms given to young muslim men who committed a series of rapes in Sydney. The Imam further stated that "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."
On to Item Number Two. Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque in Manchester, England believes the killing of gays is justified - hey, it's in the Koran after all! Quite a few people have come out and stated that his position is extreme, that the Koran does NOT state that the killing of gays is warranted, it's just an "interpretation." An interpretation of what? From religioustolerance.org:
The Hadith are collections of sayings attributed to Muhammad.
IslamOnline.net records a fatwa (religious ruling) concerning an Iranian man who had been convicted of raping and then killing his 16-year-old nephew. The fatwa does not appear to differentiate between consensual homosexuality and homosexual rape; both are linked to adultery. Their ruling stated:
"Homosexuality, moreover, is an abomination and a grave sin. In Hadith, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, clarifies the gravity of this abomination by saying: "Allah curses the one who does the actions (homosexual practices) of the people of Lut." repeating it three times; and he said in another Hadith: "If a man comes upon a man then they are both adulterers." Here, he considered homosexuality tantamount to adultery in relation to the Shari’ah punishments because it is an abomination on the one hand and the definition of adultery applies to it on the other hand.....As for lesbians, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said about them: 'If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both Adulteresses'."
Other Hadiths also discuss liwat (gay sexual activity) and Sihaq (lesbian sexual activity).
"When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes."
"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to."
"Sihaq (lesbian sexual activity) of women is zina (illegitimate sexual intercourse) among them."
Traditionalist orthodox Muslims generally claim that the Hadith literature contains the authentic sayings of Muhammad. Many liberal Muslims doubt the authenticity of at least some of them. The latter suggest that during the times of the first Caliphs, Muslims did not know what to do with individuals guilty of "liwat/lutiyya". No sahabi (companion) of Muhammad could quote a saying or decision of Muhammad relating to this question.
There seems to be no tolerance for gays in Islam, even though buggery of kids is common, not only with boys, but girls as well. This from Ayatollah Khomeni:
"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."
These pronouncements are from Islamic leaders! Islam is simply not compatible with Western, European, Judeo-Christian values. The Reformation, the Enlightenment, Constitutional Law, all of these Islamists desire to end, replacing it with Sharia law, in which women can be killed for being suspected of committing adultery, and gays have no rights. I am tempted to link to a video of the stoning of a woman convicted of adultery in Iran, but, really, it is quite horrendous, so no link. Women's and Gay Rights groups in the US continue their attacks on Conservative Christians, completely ignoring the giant, purple-spotted, pink elephant with the scimitar waiting to get into the room. Christians are an easy target, they typically do not riot in the streets, burn cars (Paris), call for the deaths of the infidels (Danish cartoons) and lop heads off when they are offended - they take out ads and write letters to the editor!
Oh yeah, and it is estimated that several hundred gay Palestinians have crossed and are living illegally in Israel, where they feel safer. Yep, the same Israel which Kofi and others would have us believe is an apartheid, racist, fascist state. Truly unbelievable. My only real hope is that people will go on-line, ignore CNN, MSNBC, BBC, ABC, CBS and others, and look for other sources of news and information that are factual and straightforward - not shilling for a particular political party. There is an abundance of information out there that we, here in the US, do not get to see unless we look, and I truly hope that we are not ostriches, hiding our heads from that which we either find disgusting or simply do not want to confront.
So, there is my happy, beginning of the week post. Get off your ass, look at Jihadwatch, LGF, MEMRI, and others, and see what's really going on.
Oh, yeah, and have a great day!!!!!!!
Another 'Oh, yeah," I know there are moderate Muslims who do not really subscribe to the Jihad rhetoric of kill the infidel, stone, behead, blah, blah, blah... but they really do need to speak up NOW- it's been over five years since 9/11 and the US and western Europe are realizing just what Islam is about and the moderates are conspiciously silent. Germany is learning, Holland is learning, France is learning, Sweden is learning, Denmark is ...............................
And the United States is learning.
posted by Unknown at 7:37 PM
3 Comments:
My brother was stationed in Saudi Arabia for a couple of months. He was supposed to be briefed before going about his business there but he arrived after the briefing session and would have to attend one the following week.
He made the mistake of going into town the following day he arrived which was Friday, the day executions are done. The townspeople knew he was American, so they pushed him to the front so he could see what was going on. He had no idea. Before he knew it, he witnessed the execution of a young woman; her crime was "adultery". It messed with his head.
I completely agree with your assessment, there is no compatability between our two cultures. Even if we were all atheists, there still is no compatability.
Wow, that was a quick response! I just posted this and was editing it, but thanks. First of all, tell your brother thank you for his service - I did over 7 years active duty myself.
I think a lot of Americans are really starting to wake up to the threat that Islam actually poses to the West, regardless of what they would have us believe (google taquiyya). To me, the Danish cartoon fiasco started to open a lot of eyes, then with pronouncements such as what I wrote about, people are really beginning to ask questions, and the answers they are finding are not to their liking.
We have a strong tradition of tolerance in this country and this would all be wiped clean if Islam establishes the global caliphate that they seek - I'm glad there are people like you and your brother who see this.
Thanks for the comment, and I hope to hear more from you in upcoming posts.
Only one comment. I think that the Gay and Lesbian organization that take issue with conservative christian gue so because theylive in the US where the conservative Christian are setting the laws they have to live by. World wide the issues are different, no doubt. But in the US, the conservative christian are the ones that are immediately affecting the lives and rights of the gay and lesbian community, not the Islam fundamentalists. We have to fix ourselves before we can fix the world.
It was good seeing you the other day. Did you like any of those recipes?
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